tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4513524515428334509.post8342960942007965544..comments2024-03-26T10:41:35.852+00:00Comments on The 1709 Blog: Footie and a beer on a Saturday afternoon: soon to be a forgotten pleasure?Marie-Andree Weisshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17125973798789498436noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4513524515428334509.post-57572531790560270302014-11-24T11:27:14.877+00:002014-11-24T11:27:14.877+00:00The person who posed this question might be intere...The person who posed this question might be interested to know that four pubs have been ordered by the High Court to pay a total of £30,000 in costs to the Premier League over a breach of copyright. They are in Stoke, Durham, Rochester and Swindon. It follows a ruling earlier this month that Manchester pub The Red Beret should pay £8,000 costs to the Premier League for the unauthorized breach of Premier League copyright.<br /><br />a FAPL spokesperson said "“Our messages to publicans are clear: ignore the lies peddled by suppliers who make false claims about the legality of foreign broadcasts. And broadcast Premier League football in your pubs the right way – via Sky Sports and BT Sport commercial agreements” <br /><br />More here http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2014/11/24/pubs-in-breach-of-premier-league-copyright/Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01868498334405853494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4513524515428334509.post-74555587361272687272014-11-18T12:11:23.809+00:002014-11-18T12:11:23.809+00:00I think what the two much referred to cases cases ...I think what the two much referred to cases cases (C-403/08 Football Association Premier League Ltd and Others v QC Leisure and Others and C-429/08 Karen Murphy v Media Protection Services Ltd) established was that publican Ms Murphy, as a citzen of Europe, was entitled to have a Greek Nova box in her home and could herself quite happily and legally watch live Premiership football. What she couldn't do was use that same box to feed a signal into her pub. However the (criminal) conviction under s297(1) CDPA against her were quite rightly dismissed in the High Court. Anecdotally I have to say that it does appear less and less pubs are using European live feeds in their pubs - I know at least two pubs where I live in North London who have recently stopped using foriegn feeds - both swapping to Sky and BT which they pay for - because of course it brings in punters. Of course those services are without the Saturday afternoon live game although of course they do have the early and Saturday late kick off and Sundays too. Whether Sky have upped their enforcement regime would have to be answered by someone else - but whatever it is it seems to be working. That said ... in January I blogged here that the FAPL had launched over 100 actions against pubs using foriegn decoders, at that jucnture ficussing on South Wales. http://the1709blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/newsflash-murphys-law-to-be-tested-again.html<br /><br />As interesting is the news that Ofcom has opened an investigation into how the Premier League sells live TV media rights for it's football matches in the UK. It follows a complaint from Virgin Media, which was submitted to Ofcom in September. Ofcom said it was "mindful of the likely timing of the next auction of live UK audio-visual media rights, and is open to discussion with the Premier League about its plans". The BBC says Ofcom will also look at the issue of how many games are moved from their traditional 3pm kick-off times on Saturdays, because of TV scheduling needs - and talk to fans. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30095012Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01868498334405853494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4513524515428334509.post-42851936987329866102014-11-18T09:37:20.521+00:002014-11-18T09:37:20.521+00:00So this is the thing Andy, I know a few places tha...So this is the thing Andy, I know a few places that were using these for commercial use boxes and technically they weren't illegal. What apparently was illegal however, at least according the the Premier League, was showing their logo and any other copyrighted information with the Euro feed. <br /><br />Some of the companies started to sell decoders that would remove the copyright material, but they were still shut down and I'm not sure why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4513524515428334509.post-63974626495266726672014-11-07T22:20:10.175+00:002014-11-07T22:20:10.175+00:00I would be interested to know if there are any pub...I would be interested to know if there are any pubs in the uk using eu services which are authorised for commercial use by pubs (rather than home use). Because surely that would be ok?andynoreply@blogger.com